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		<title>Comment on Cheap Thrills by Noah Berlatsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah Berlatsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:53:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, man. I get notifications when someone comments. It&#039;s technology.

I&#039;ve talked about Crumb&#039;s limitations in other places about the blog too. Feel free to look them up and raise your blood pressure, if defending Crumb from random old blog posts is your thing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, man. I get notifications when someone comments. It&#8217;s technology.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve talked about Crumb&#8217;s limitations in other places about the blog too. Feel free to look them up and raise your blood pressure, if defending Crumb from random old blog posts is your thing.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheap Thrills by John Brown</title>
		<link>http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/06/cheap-thrills/#comment-73295</link>
		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 14:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa, Noah! My bloghole was totally stripmined by your reply. So badly eroded I thought I’d achieved extinction. But after about two minutes, I struggled to move around a bit and realized I’d survived! Not only that, but the desperation with which you must have waited for nearly two years for someone to comment struck me as pitiful. So I’ll cut you some slack, if you’ll allow me to present a short history lesson:  If, in 25-40 years a small group of young people for some archaeological purpose uncovers this blog as you call it, their misinterpretations of it will no doubt seem pitiful to you. And if you still feel at all that your mental masturbations in the ripe old year of 2011 are worth defending, I wish you luck trying to make yourself understood. But don’t kill yourself over it, kid…Speaking of Crumb’s horny old toes, you haven’t researched them too well if this “mammy figure” is the most disturbing caricature you’ve discovered. For starters I’d recommend the cover of Mystic Funnies No. 1. That should clear some of the steam off your mirror…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa, Noah! My bloghole was totally stripmined by your reply. So badly eroded I thought I’d achieved extinction. But after about two minutes, I struggled to move around a bit and realized I’d survived! Not only that, but the desperation with which you must have waited for nearly two years for someone to comment struck me as pitiful. So I’ll cut you some slack, if you’ll allow me to present a short history lesson:  If, in 25-40 years a small group of young people for some archaeological purpose uncovers this blog as you call it, their misinterpretations of it will no doubt seem pitiful to you. And if you still feel at all that your mental masturbations in the ripe old year of 2011 are worth defending, I wish you luck trying to make yourself understood. But don’t kill yourself over it, kid…Speaking of Crumb’s horny old toes, you haven’t researched them too well if this “mammy figure” is the most disturbing caricature you’ve discovered. For starters I’d recommend the cover of Mystic Funnies No. 1. That should clear some of the steam off your mirror…</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Radiant Touch of Commerce by Mike Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 11:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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Noah Berlatsky says:

There can definitely be something revolting in the artifice of fashion…
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Yes; the holding up of unattainable, inhuman perfection; pseudo-rebelliousness; cynical exploitation of sexual/racial areas...

But, &quot;artifice&quot; can harmlessly be imaginative, amusing, bizarre, or simply ridiculous:

Bjork; http://theraspberrystain.thebutterflyfx.com/images/Stylewalksplanett/biork-1.jpg

http://www.dexigner.com/news/20606

The first four photos at http://tokyofashion.com/tag/extreme-fashion/ ...

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I was trying to say, though, that there’s something attractive too. I don’t think it’s an accident that there are so many gay men attracted to this world. You can see how it might be a relief after a lifetime of having your authenticity questioned to be in a place where those questions aren’t really raised….
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Unlike those historic Jews who turned to finance and &quot;usury&quot; because they were driven out of other occupations (starting with &lt;i&gt;farming&lt;/i&gt;), I don&#039;t think gay guys are &lt;i&gt;driven&lt;/i&gt; into fashion: &quot;Oh, good, &lt;i&gt;here&#039;s&lt;/i&gt; a place where my &#039;authenticity&#039; won&#039;t be questioned!&quot;

Indeed, it seems t&#039;me that they routinely delight in aesthetically inspired artificiality; it&#039;s not down-to-earth women that win their admiration and imitation, but larger-than-live divas like Garland, Streisand.

From Oscar Wilde:

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&quot;The one charm about marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties.&quot;

&quot;Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.&quot;
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BTW, is that gold background behind the &quot;mannequins&quot; in the first shot (looks like a hammered-metal plate) not reminiscent of a halo? Or a Van Gogh Sun?

Can one not make the case that calling every cylindrical object around a &quot;penis substitute&quot; is reminiscent of &lt;i&gt;phallocentrism&lt;/i&gt;, &quot;The privileging of the phallus in understanding meaning or social relations&quot;? 

Howcum every torus shape doesn&#039;t get similar treatment? &quot;Look at those fat cops, munching on &#039;vagina substitutes&#039;!&quot;

Those &quot;cigarette substitutes&quot; being waved around to exploit the now-&quot;forbidden pleasure&quot; aspect of tobacco, reminds of Edward Bernays, P.R. and advertising mastermind, who brought into the field discoveries in psychology, the better to manipulate the masses for political and commercial aims.

In his massively influential 1928 &quot;Propaganda&quot; (poor Bernays was dismayed to hear the Nazis later used its techniques; who would&#039;ve &lt;i&gt;thought?&lt;/i&gt;)...

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Bernays places great importance on the ability of a propaganda producer, as he views himself, to unlock the motives behind an individual’s desires, not simply the reason an individual might offer. He argues, “Man’s thoughts and actions are compensatory substitutes for desires which he has been obliged to suppress.” 

Bernays suggests that propaganda may become increasingly effective and influential through the discovery of audiences’ hidden motives. He asserts that the emotional response inherently present in propaganda limits the audience’s choices by creating a binary mentality, which can result in quicker, more enthused responses...
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28book%29

The &quot;Suffragettes and Cigarettes&quot; section at http://tinyurl.com/aygvp57 shows how Bernays tied in the fight for women&#039;s rights with cigarettes, describing the cancer-sticks as &quot;torches of liberty&quot;...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Noah Berlatsky says:</p>
<p>There can definitely be something revolting in the artifice of fashion…<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p>Yes; the holding up of unattainable, inhuman perfection; pseudo-rebelliousness; cynical exploitation of sexual/racial areas&#8230;</p>
<p>But, &#8220;artifice&#8221; can harmlessly be imaginative, amusing, bizarre, or simply ridiculous:</p>
<p>Bjork; <a href="http://theraspberrystain.thebutterflyfx.com/images/Stylewalksplanett/biork-1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://theraspberrystain.thebutterflyfx.com/images/Stylewalksplanett/biork-1.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dexigner.com/news/20606" rel="nofollow">http://www.dexigner.com/news/20606</a></p>
<p>The first four photos at <a href="http://tokyofashion.com/tag/extreme-fashion/" rel="nofollow">http://tokyofashion.com/tag/extreme-fashion/</a> &#8230;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I was trying to say, though, that there’s something attractive too. I don’t think it’s an accident that there are so many gay men attracted to this world. You can see how it might be a relief after a lifetime of having your authenticity questioned to be in a place where those questions aren’t really raised….<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>Unlike those historic Jews who turned to finance and &#8220;usury&#8221; because they were driven out of other occupations (starting with <i>farming</i>), I don&#8217;t think gay guys are <i>driven</i> into fashion: &#8220;Oh, good, <i>here&#8217;s</i> a place where my &#8216;authenticity&#8217; won&#8217;t be questioned!&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, it seems t&#8217;me that they routinely delight in aesthetically inspired artificiality; it&#8217;s not down-to-earth women that win their admiration and imitation, but larger-than-live divas like Garland, Streisand.</p>
<p>From Oscar Wilde:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
&#8220;The one charm about marriage is that it makes a life of deception absolutely necessary for both parties.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth.&#8221;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;</p>
<p>BTW, is that gold background behind the &#8220;mannequins&#8221; in the first shot (looks like a hammered-metal plate) not reminiscent of a halo? Or a Van Gogh Sun?</p>
<p>Can one not make the case that calling every cylindrical object around a &#8220;penis substitute&#8221; is reminiscent of <i>phallocentrism</i>, &#8220;The privileging of the phallus in understanding meaning or social relations&#8221;? </p>
<p>Howcum every torus shape doesn&#8217;t get similar treatment? &#8220;Look at those fat cops, munching on &#8216;vagina substitutes&#8217;!&#8221;</p>
<p>Those &#8220;cigarette substitutes&#8221; being waved around to exploit the now-&#8221;forbidden pleasure&#8221; aspect of tobacco, reminds of Edward Bernays, P.R. and advertising mastermind, who brought into the field discoveries in psychology, the better to manipulate the masses for political and commercial aims.</p>
<p>In his massively influential 1928 &#8220;Propaganda&#8221; (poor Bernays was dismayed to hear the Nazis later used its techniques; who would&#8217;ve <i>thought?</i>)&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
Bernays places great importance on the ability of a propaganda producer, as he views himself, to unlock the motives behind an individual’s desires, not simply the reason an individual might offer. He argues, “Man’s thoughts and actions are compensatory substitutes for desires which he has been obliged to suppress.” </p>
<p>Bernays suggests that propaganda may become increasingly effective and influential through the discovery of audiences’ hidden motives. He asserts that the emotional response inherently present in propaganda limits the audience’s choices by creating a binary mentality, which can result in quicker, more enthused responses&#8230;<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28book%29" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda_%28book%29</a></p>
<p>The &#8220;Suffragettes and Cigarettes&#8221; section at <a href="http://tinyurl.com/aygvp57" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/aygvp57</a> shows how Bernays tied in the fight for women&#8217;s rights with cigarettes, describing the cancer-sticks as &#8220;torches of liberty&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheap Thrills by Noah Berlatsky</title>
		<link>http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2011/06/cheap-thrills/#comment-73289</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah Berlatsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 11:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know what blogs are? This is a blog. You old fogeys may not realize it, but you aren&#039;t required to lick Crumb&#039;s horny toes all your life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know what blogs are? This is a blog. You old fogeys may not realize it, but you aren&#8217;t required to lick Crumb&#8217;s horny toes all your life.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheap Thrills by Mike Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 10:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kudos for deploying &quot;whippersnappers&quot;! Confusion to the youngsters...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kudos for deploying &#8220;whippersnappers&#8221;! Confusion to the youngsters&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jailers Hate Escapism: Epic Fantasy as Subversive Literature by Briany Najar</title>
		<link>http://hoodedutilitarian.com/2013/05/jailers-hate-escapism-epic-fantasy-as-subversive-literature/#comment-73275</link>
		<dc:creator>Briany Najar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 06:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There&#039;s a great little piece on the Still Eating Oranges blog which, deploying quotes from &lt;i&gt;On Fairy Stories&lt;/i&gt;, argues for a valuation of fantasy fiction as a method of perceptual resuscitation.

&#039; According to Tolkien, we feel in everyday life a jaded ownership of those things familiar to us. The world becomes mundane: without surprise and beneath our experiential notice. However, as he writes, “Spring is, of course, not really less beautiful because we have seen or heard of other like events”. Events that are to us uninteresting are to others “the first ever seen and recognized”. Spring’s explosive beauty never leaves; but our egos suppress its “fluency”, in Cage’s words. &#039;
...
&#039; But what type of depiction allows spring to be spring again? Tolkien argues that it is fantasy. By this, one should not understand him to mean the use of orcs and elves. Tolkien writes that fantasy at its most basic is the depiction of something “not actually present”—something not enclosed by “the domination of observed fact”. For just this reason, it reminds us that “observed fact” cannot encircle the alien Otherness of our world. &#039;
...
&#039; By depicting the “not actually present”, we subvert the illusion that we have seen it all—that we are the all-knowing possessors of the world around us. We are reminded that “all [we] had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild”. The “arresting strangeness” of fantasy breaches the walls of ironic detachment that we have built around ourselves, which have given us the comfort of experiential death. And it is for this reason that the fantastical and exaggerated have been put away in modern times. As Tolkien says, “Many people dislike being ‘arrested’.” Experiential works have been relegated to children and teenagers; and adults, when they pay attention at all, approach only as disinterested analyzers of subtext. &#039;

http://stilleatingoranges.tumblr.com/post/47827086914/toward-an-experiential-art]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a great little piece on the Still Eating Oranges blog which, deploying quotes from <i>On Fairy Stories</i>, argues for a valuation of fantasy fiction as a method of perceptual resuscitation.</p>
<p>&#8216; According to Tolkien, we feel in everyday life a jaded ownership of those things familiar to us. The world becomes mundane: without surprise and beneath our experiential notice. However, as he writes, “Spring is, of course, not really less beautiful because we have seen or heard of other like events”. Events that are to us uninteresting are to others “the first ever seen and recognized”. Spring’s explosive beauty never leaves; but our egos suppress its “fluency”, in Cage’s words. &#8216;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8216; But what type of depiction allows spring to be spring again? Tolkien argues that it is fantasy. By this, one should not understand him to mean the use of orcs and elves. Tolkien writes that fantasy at its most basic is the depiction of something “not actually present”—something not enclosed by “the domination of observed fact”. For just this reason, it reminds us that “observed fact” cannot encircle the alien Otherness of our world. &#8216;<br />
&#8230;<br />
&#8216; By depicting the “not actually present”, we subvert the illusion that we have seen it all—that we are the all-knowing possessors of the world around us. We are reminded that “all [we] had (or knew) was dangerous and potent, not really effectively chained, free and wild”. The “arresting strangeness” of fantasy breaches the walls of ironic detachment that we have built around ourselves, which have given us the comfort of experiential death. And it is for this reason that the fantastical and exaggerated have been put away in modern times. As Tolkien says, “Many people dislike being ‘arrested’.” Experiential works have been relegated to children and teenagers; and adults, when they pay attention at all, approach only as disinterested analyzers of subtext. &#8216;</p>
<p><a href="http://stilleatingoranges.tumblr.com/post/47827086914/toward-an-experiential-art" rel="nofollow">http://stilleatingoranges.tumblr.com/post/47827086914/toward-an-experiential-art</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Cheap Thrills by John Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 04:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do you know what cartoons are? These are cartoons. You whippersnappers may not realize it, but you aren&#039;t required to act like you&#039;re sucking up to college professors your whole life! No one who was there was worried about &quot;stereotype&quot; hogwash, and that isn&#039;t Jesus, it&#039;s James Gurley for Christsakes. You won&#039;t ever know what&#039;s funny about this album cover. Get over it. Worry about the lameness that confronts you in the mirror every morning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you know what cartoons are? These are cartoons. You whippersnappers may not realize it, but you aren&#8217;t required to act like you&#8217;re sucking up to college professors your whole life! No one who was there was worried about &#8220;stereotype&#8221; hogwash, and that isn&#8217;t Jesus, it&#8217;s James Gurley for Christsakes. You won&#8217;t ever know what&#8217;s funny about this album cover. Get over it. Worry about the lameness that confronts you in the mirror every morning.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Radiant Touch of Commerce by Ng Suat Tong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ng Suat Tong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 May 2013 01:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex - can we expect the &quot;I was a Ford male child model&quot; memoir soon? And, yes, link us to some images please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex &#8211; can we expect the &#8220;I was a Ford male child model&#8221; memoir soon? And, yes, link us to some images please.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Radiant Touch of Commerce by Noah Berlatsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Noah Berlatsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 20:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it gets tricky, though, because *any* eroticized gaze tends to read as, and partly be eroticized because, it&#039;s male.  

That is, women in the eroticized position of male viewer are in the eroticized position of male viewer. Showing women holding phallic symbols could be seen as giving women the phallus; i.e., the one doing the erotic viewing is female, not male.

There&#039;s just a lot of cross-identification and cross-viewing in fashion, I think. Gender and sexuality are just really presented as very fluid in these images....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it gets tricky, though, because *any* eroticized gaze tends to read as, and partly be eroticized because, it&#8217;s male.  </p>
<p>That is, women in the eroticized position of male viewer are in the eroticized position of male viewer. Showing women holding phallic symbols could be seen as giving women the phallus; i.e., the one doing the erotic viewing is female, not male.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s just a lot of cross-identification and cross-viewing in fashion, I think. Gender and sexuality are just really presented as very fluid in these images&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Radiant Touch of Commerce by subdee</title>
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		<dc:creator>subdee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2013 20:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not male gaze because it&#039;s eroticized, it&#039;s male gaze because there are phallic symbols and whatnot :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not male gaze because it&#8217;s eroticized, it&#8217;s male gaze because there are phallic symbols and whatnot :p</p>
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