As I mentioned a week or so back, I’ve been reading a bunch of comics criticism recently. One essay I looked at was by Marc Singer. (I don’t know Marc personally, though we have some mutual acquaintances making it feel really weird for me to refer to him as “Singer”, which is why he appears here under his given name.) Anyway, the post I linked to is a pretty fabulous discussion of what went wrong, and what could have gone right, with Grant Morrison’s Final Crisis. It’s extremely entertaining, and is more or less grist for my thesis that writing about super-hero comics tends to be better than writing about art comics.
That isn’t exactly what I was going to talk about here, though. Instead, I wanted to comment on the end of Marc’s post, which is basically his farewell to blogging. I’ll quote it at some length.
One of the nicer things about comics blogging is that you don’t really have to do it every day; as long as Tom or Dirk links to your post, it doesn’t matter how badly you’ve let your readership atrophy. But that can be a trap, too. Comics blogs offer a guaranteed (if tiny) audience and absolutely no standards other than the ones you and your chosen peers set for yourselves. Not exactly a recipe for great writing, which makes the great writing it has produced that much more remarkable. But once you fall out of the habit for a while it begins to look a bit too cozy, a bit too comfortable.
The problem is not the subject matter, even when a subject disappoints as deeply as Final Crisis does, severing that last tether to the weekly conversation. The problem is the medium itself. If blogging is daily it is also ephemeral, yet the ephemera cling to life with embarrassing persistence; even the best-kept archives reek with the overripe tang of long-forgotten controversies that never mattered in the first place. (Paul O’Brien thinks comics are boring! Micah Ian Wright lied to me! How could CrossGen fail?) Not long after I started this blog I made an effort, haltingly at first, to purge it of such ephemera, to write only pieces I thought I could be proud of later. I’m still proud of many of them, but the consequence was a blog that rarely updated and still took more effort than a blog should take.
Some folks are able to turn their blogs into part of their professional development or, better yet, make blogging a profession unto itself. More power to them. Writing this blog has been incredibly valuable, as a laboratory for developing ideas and as a motivation to push my style in directions it otherwise wouldn’t have taken. But after a while it’s time to apply all that work to formats and venues that aren’t measured chiefly by their frequency. No matter how much time and energy I sank into it, blogging has always been a hobby for me. Time spent blogging is time not spent writing for some other format that demands better work and offers something more durable in return.
Obviously, Marc is a lot more positive about blogging than Gary Groth. But the two do share general attitudes in common, I think. Both argue that blogging is less rich than print (Gary says “shallow” if I remember correctly; Marc uses the less pejorative “ephemeral”.) Blogging, they say, is caught up in petty controversies and rushed judgments; print is more thoughtful and more durable. If you’re serious about writing about comics, more or less, you should probably write a book (or at least write for a magazine).
I sneered fairly vigorously at Gary, largely because he didn’t know what he was talking about. Marc, on the other hand, does know what he’s talking about. I still think he’s basically wrong in his evaluation of blogging, but he’s not being unfair or outright ignorant. Which means that to respond to him I can’t just sneer. I actually have to try to defend blogging.
So here goes. The main thing, maybe, that separates me from both Gary and Marc is that I don’t necessarily think that writing about comics in any venue is actually serious or durable or especially worthwhile from any objective perspective. Indeed, it’s a rare, rare, rare book that can be said to matter in the sense that the world would be a measurably better (or a worse) place if said book had not been written. Needless to say, most of those rare books involve theology or politics, not commentaries on sequential pictographs.
Now, that’s not to say that writing books is worthless. There are other perspectives than the objective one, and you don’t have to measure a work of art (which is basically what a work of criticism is) by its utility. You can measure it, for example, by the love that was put into it, or by the small group of people who are touched by it. Or you can measure it by its insight, or its formal competence, or its poetry, or what have you. But none of these criteria, it seems to me, necessarily privilege books over the Internet.
Now, it’s true that you can do some things in a book that you can’t do in a blog. They’re different genres of writing. If you want to write a lengthy study, and want to engage with an academic audience — for career reasons or just because that’s what interests you — it’s probably best to publish a book. I understand that. One of my regrets for this piece is that, while I read a lot of academic writing to put it together, few of those academics are going to read what I have to say and respond to it. It’s just in the wrong place to become part of the discourse. Which is unfortunate, but, you know, that’s the tradeoff I get for not finishing my Ph.D.
But because academics aren’t paying attention to it, does that mean that a piece of writing is more ephemeral, or less durable, or less good? I just don’t see it. I mean, yes, blogs deal with passing controversies and issues of the day. So did Shakespeare. So did Shaw. So did Swift. So did St. Paul, for that matter. That’s what writers do; they deal with issues of the day because, you know, your day is where you live. You don’t reside in some universal Platonic n-space, where you can write about only matters of broad import and forget the rest. I mean, Alexander Pope’s writing is almost entirely made up of petty sneers at literary rivals who have long since ceased to matter to anyone except those graduate students reading Alexander Pope’s poetry. Does that mean that Alexander Pope’s poetry is inferior to, say, a determinedly non-political poet like, say, Mark Strand? Not necessarily; it just means you have to read different footnotes.
I mean, if Marc didn’t want to get into blog troll battles, that’s certainly his right; there’s no reason to engage in such things if they don’t interest you. But, on the other hand, I don’t think it’s right to say that such controversies are less worthwhile than writing about the end of Final Crisis in some absolute sense. Four hundred years from now, are you sure anybody is going to recognize Grant Morrison’s name any more than they’re going to recognize Paul O’Brien’s or Colley Cibber’s? Write for yourself and the audience you’ve got, because that’s the *only* one you’ve got. Certainly, folks like Derek Walcott think that they’re writing for generations to come — which is one among many reasons why Derek Wolcott’s writing sucks so thoroughly and so consistently.
Another way people often denigrate blogging, I think, is by suggesting that it’s not as concentrated, or thoughtful, or ambitious as writing a book. Again, it’s true that ambitious blogs don’t look like ambitious books, but I don’t think the difference is necessarily one of quality or thoughtfulness per se. As a blogger, I’m currently in the process of writing at length about every single issue of the Marston/Peter Wonder Woman run. Economically, that’s simply not something you could do in print. Similarly, a collaborative work of criticism like Tom Spurgeon’s massive series of holiday interviews on comics of the decade would be much, much more difficult to organize in a print magazine than online.
The point here is that there are a lot of projects that are feasible in the blogosphere that aren’t possible in books, just as there are things possible in books that aren’t really doable online. It’s not, at least for me, a question of honing my skills in blogging so some day I can get down to the real work of writing books. Rather, blogging’s like any other artistic endeavor. You put in the genius and the time and the effort and the love that you’ve got, and that’s exactly what you get out of it. If Marc, or anyone, has other passions or other interests, or if the particular demands and concerns of blogging don’t line up with your own, then, of course, he or they should go do something else. There’s no shame in that. But, on the other hand, I don’t think there’s any particular shame either in staying with the blogosphere and what it has to offer. I know that, at least for me, blogging has been an incredibly rewarding experience — a chance to work with other writers I admire; to write and publish any number of pieces I’m proud of; to interact with a sometimes receptive and sometimes critical audience. I have gotten a couple of gigs out of it, too, but that’s really just been an added bonus. Whether I ever write a book or not, blogging has very much been its own reward.
Update: Corrected various embarrassing errors — proving the superiority or inferiority of blogs, depending on how you look at it.
Do you disagree that an element of blogging’s like walking in the woods on meth with a shotgun? All amped up & ready to kill anything that moves? I think instant publishing and instant response times (“dammit! comments already!”) make it a lot like improv, and in therefore exhausting.
Some people thrive on that, but then they die. The Times ran a piece a year or two ago about bloggers keeling over dead. But that may have been from living in Brooklyn.
Plus–you can correct your errors on a blog.
Walcott, not Wolcott…
It’s Spurgeon, not Crippen doing the interviews, right?
The piece Marc wrote was many months ago, as well…proving it’s universal and time-spanning appeal.
its, not it’s…see!
Argh; I don’t really care how Derek whatevercott spells his name, but switching Tom and Tom is painful. Yes, it’s Spurgeon not the (also lovely) Crippen.
I think blogging can really be what you make of it in a lot of ways. I think there is definitely an impulse to do the improvy thing and go around shooting at the trolls. (I enjoy that myself to some extent.) But you can also make like the Thought Balloonists guys and just write more considered pieces when it moves you.
The demand for more content is a real issue though. That’s one of the reasons I wanted to try going to a group blog here, actually. I also think that collaboration is one of the most enjoyable benefits of writing online.
“Indeed, it’s a rare, rare, rare book that can be said to matter in the sense that the world would be a measurably better (or a worse) place if said book had not been written. Needless to say, most of those rare books involve theology or politics, not commentaries on sequential pictographs.”
If you’re talking about a work’s ability to endure or be widely through the centuries or even millenia, I think history shows that those works would be mostly major works of religion, history or fiction.
I doubt if any person writing about comics is interested in that kind of legacy. When the word “posterity” is used in that context, I tend to assume that the writer actually means that they want to see his/her writing remain relevant throughout their lifetime or at best a few decades after their death (which is already asking a lot).
From a more “philosophical” point of view, it’s plainly ridiculous to think about any kind of critical posterity beyond one’s lifetime whatever point of view you come from. If you don’t believe in an afterlife, you certainly won’t be cognizant of the lasting worth of your writing. If you do, the presence of some greater being would make such things pale into insignificance . I doubt if you could get karmic points for good writing as well.
“When the word “posterity” is used in that context, I tend to assume that the writer actually means that they want to see his/her writing remain relevant throughout their lifetime or at best a few decades after their death (which is already asking a lot).”
Yes…which is why the distinction between ephemeral blog writing and more lasting book or magazine writing doesn’t make much sense to me, personally. In even the medium term (like, say 75 years) it’s hard to see how it will make much difference one way or the other.
That summation of the philosophical point of view is pretty hysterical…and its irrefutably iron logic doesn’t change the fact that people who believe in the afterlife and those who don’t still do, in fact, care about their posterity.
I’m jumping back to Noah’s post, not so much the thread. My view is there’s blogging and there’s the typical blog post. If someone writes an essay and posts it on a blog, then blogging can be as thoughtful, well-wrought, intellectually ambitious, etc., as print. But the typical blog post is not an essay, it’s a squib done off the cuff to capture an impression or make a quick point. Which suits me fine, because as a reader I prefer that kind of stuff. It’s just that all the impressions and quick points ought eventually to add up to something larger, and recording that something larger would be the job of an essay or book. Of course the essay or book could be posted directly onto the Internet.
Anyway, that’s my philosophy of the matter. Reactive, day-by-day blogging is great for tracking and developing one’s thoughts, but as a writer’s thoughts on a subject develop they get more complicated and take more time/effort to get into form — not for the sake of fanciness, just to get them complete. So the writer has to change gears for a while and be more “literary.” I mean, after you’re done chewing over the Marston comics issue by issue, I expect whatever conclusions you come to will take some working out over time and will be presented in one or two large posts — or essays for magazine presentation, but either way pretty much the same text.
Hey Tom! Nice to see you in these parts again.
For the Marston stuff…some of those essays I felt were pretty solid as is (like this one) — though obviously people who aren’t me might differ. On the other hand, I’ve also written some synthesizing pieces (like this lecture.) as I’ve gone. And I’d certainly enjoy doing a book on the topic if somebody would pay me. So…I guess I feel like there can be a back and forth, and you can use the blog as a kind of rough draft, but it doesn’t have to always work that way either, necessarily.
True, there’s no reason that synthesizing pieces can’t go direct to the web, and please don’t think I found your Marston post un-solid. Even when they don’t step back a bit, as w/ the racism post, they bring out a lot about Marston/Ww.
Do you plan to post the lecture, or is Randolph-Macon predatory about rights issues?
They can be as predatory as they’d like — I own the thing!
I sort of have this hope that I may be able to publish it elsewhere, or at least deliver it again, is why it hasn’t shown up on the blog. But presumably I’ll give up eventually….
I don’t know if I’ve ever written any sufficiently “considered” blog posts, but as a snail’s-pace writer I’ve taken solace from David Bordwell’s call for “slow blogging.” For a very interesting piece on film criticism, with lots of intersections with Noah’s points, check out http://www.davidbordwell.net/blog/?p=2315 [.]
As someone who is very bogged down in the academic lifestyle on a day to day basis I think that blogging is much much better for speaking about some issues. It is unfortunate that everyone can’t let go of the desire for everything to ALWAYS be perfectly edited or peer reviewed. I think it is really important to write about comics and video games as they come and as they are integrating themselves into pop culture in different ways. Some issues are, for lack of a better term, ephemeral and blogging becomes in that point in history EXTREMELY important for us to make note of an issue so that it can be examined as problematic. Feminism for instance, has just an incredible debt to blogging. The concepts that have become almost common knowledge in the past few years (slut shaming, rape culture, nice guy syndrome, girl hate etc) are so incredibly important and are helping more and more people acknowledge that the personal is political and the political can be found in these day to day “normal” actions between humans. If we were talking about the problem of “nice guys” in an article in a journal or even a magazine, so few people would read it, so few young girls would read it, but platforms like Rookie or Jezebel (even if you don’t like their content) have made feminism accessible for everyone again. I may be in the process of getting my PhD and publishing various things but I don’t want my REALLY important ideas to sit in a dense academic article that only a very small percentage of the population would ever want to read. I want my ideas to be read ( and to be readable) to anyone who wants to read them. This may seem like it has little do with comics but I think really it has a lot to do with comics. We shouldn’t let the “literary” tradition stop us from saying what we want to say when we want to say it.
All this isn’t to say that I don’t want to write a book someday. It is my dream to turn my thesis into a book but I would want it to be a book that people will actually want to read. More importantly I wouldn’t see that content as more important or relevant than internet content just because it took place in print.
sorry if this is a bit messy! I’m on my Ipad. Great article though I am going to recommend it to my New Media Genres class.
Thanks Emma. Kind of surprised that my casual retweeting of this has gotten so much interest (several folks on twitter noticed/reposted.) It’s one of the things that’s both frustrating and exhilarating about the internet…you just never know what’s going to catch people’s attention or when….
Didn’t notice this when it was originally posted – I’m glad you called attention to it again, Noah.
When you initiate conversations such as these, I am always sympathetic and persuaded by the case you make for the value of online writing such as the kind that appears on HU. But unless I missed it, I think some of the criticism of what Marc said overlooks the really practical side of his parting remarks:
But after a while it’s time to apply all that work to formats and venues that aren’t measured chiefly by their frequency. … Time spent blogging is time not spent writing for some other format that demands better work and offers something more durable in return.
When I read “more durable,” I see questions about posterity, lasting value etc., but there’s also his tenure at stake, his job security, his paycheck. And that’s no small thing. Academia likes to think of itself as nurturing the free exchange of ideas, but if Marc’s ideas about Grant Morrison had not made the leap from blog to book, he would not get sufficiently recognized for it in his department.
Obviously, I’m really struggling with this too…. But I guess what I’m trying to say is that it is not just an individual matter, but an institutional one as well. It’s not always shame. Sometimes it’s the T&P committee.
Hey Qiana. I do mention this in the piece in passing, I think:
“If you want to write a lengthy study, and want to engage with an academic audience — for career reasons or just because that’s what interests you — it’s probably best to publish a book. I understand that.”
I think that the career considerations are a rock-solid reason for individual academics (especially pre-tenure) to focus on books and academic outlets specifically rather than on blogging.
I also think that the institutional incentives that make that the case are — as Emma sort of suggests above — not ideal. The vision of academia as separate from the public doesn’t do anyone any good, in my view. It would be great if tenure committees were able to see work on blogs as worthwhile and part of academia’s mission. I think there is some move in that direction maybe…or, at least, the folks at Rutgers UP were willing to let me do a book on the strength of my blogging work, which I really appreciated. But I totally understand that that isn’t the situation everyone is in, and it absolutely makes sense that professional obligations might make you abandon a blog for a book.